Let’s talk about M-M-P, Let’s talk about the I-Ivy, Let’s talk about all the good things And the bad things that may be, ‘Stros baby

Let's talk about M-M-P, Let's talk about the I-Ivy, Let's talk about all the good things And the bad things that may be, 'Stros baby

So after a bad rendition of Salt-n-Pepa lets get into this. The Astros home documentation have been fairly well documented. Astros players have blamed the batters eye for there Struggles at home.

PA BA OBP SLG OPS K% BB
Astros batters in 2023 at MMP 3016 .249 .325 .411 .736 19.36%
Astros Batters in 2023 away from MMP 3237 .268 .338 .460 .798 20.30%
Opposing teams vs the Astros at MMP 3142 .251 .322 .419 .741 24.51%
Opposing teams vs the Astros not at MMP 2968 .231 .309 .397 .706 23.25%
League Average Home Splits 90054 .252 .324 .422 .746 22.26%
League Average Away Splits 94050 .245 .316 .407 .723 23.17%

So there you have it pretty simply the Astros hitters are below league average at home, but then again so are their opponents. But their opponents also hit Astros pitching much better in MMP than they did when the Astros were on the road making us a total road team. But after reading an article about the Batters eye in Petco, I thought I might dig a little deeper into the subject.

Against Pitchers with a 4.5' release point or lower:

PA BA OBP SLG OPS K BB
Astros Batters at MMP 28 .393 .393 .786 1.179 28.57%
Astros Batters away from MMP 67 .292 .313 .462 .775 25.37%
Opposing teams Batters at MMP 9 .333 .333 .333 .667 11.11%
Opposing teams batters away from MMP 29 .200 .310 .320 .630 31.03%
League Average 3315 .239 .314 .377 .690 22.38%

This sample size is a little too small for us too take anything from it.

Against Pitchers with between a 4.5'(inclusive) release point and a 5.0'(exclusive) release point

PA BA OBP SLG OPS K BB
Astros Batters at MMP 97 .205 .258 .318 .576 14.43%
Astros Batters away from MMP 136 .302 .353 .516 .869 24.26%
Opposing teams Batters at MMP 141 .301 .390 .504 .894 19.86%
Opposing teams batters away from MMP 126 .261 .341 .441 .783 24.60%
League Average 7747 .246 .317 .396 .713 24.20%

Disappointing results at home but it is again a really small sample size.

Against Pitchers with between a 5.0'(inclusive) release point and a 5.5'(exclusive) release point

PA BA OBP SLG OPS K BB
Astros Batters at MMP 498 .211 .299 .343 .642 20.88%
Astros Batters away from MMP 664 .274 .348 .509 .857 19.13%
Opposing teams Batters at MMP 367 .260 .338 .446 .784 26.98%
Opposing teams batters away from MMP 427 .224 .309 .360 .669 24.36%
League Average 35655 .251 .325 .410 .735 23.29%

We are starting to get into better sample sizes and the Astros are obviously struggling to hit pitchers with this release point height.

Against Pitchers with between a 5.5'(inclusive) release point and a 6.0'(exclusive) release point

PA BA OBP SLG OPS K BB
Astros batters at MMP 1145 .250 .322 .405 .727 18.17%
Astros batters away from MMP 1337 .258 .328 .428 .756 21.39%
Opposing teams batters at MMP 896 .241 .316 .395 .711 24.67%
Opposing teams batters away from MMP 1142 .219 .298 .381 .679 19.79%
League Average 75152 .251 .318 .418 .736 22.98%

Astros are hitting a little under league average at home here.

Against Pitchers with over 6'(inclusive)

PA BA OBP SLG OPS K BB
Astros batters at MMP 1229 .265 .338 .443 .780 20.10%
Astros batters away from MMP 1005 .271 .336 .465 .801 19.00%
Opposing teams batters at MMP 1718 .250 .317 .420 .738 24.16%
Opposing teams batters away from MMP 1223 .243 .312 .423 .735 22.73%
League Average 61466 .257 .320 .429 .749 22.07%

Astros are above league average at home here.

So what can we learn from this. A comment from u/dirtysock47 actually gave me the insight I think we might need here. The Astros in 2022 had a .779 OPS at MMP but a .736 OPS at MMP in 2023. So why the drastic change in 2023 when we retained most of our lineup. (Abreu in 2023 and yuli in 2022 were somewhat comparable by OPS).

BA OBP SLG OPS K% BB%
.257 .330 .449 .779 18.82% 9.08%

So one of the most obvious external factors added in 2023 was the pitch clock. In the NFL EDGE players watch the ball but keep a mental count of the clock to time up their rush if the opposing QB lets the clock approach 0. Could it be that the new pitch clock is throwing off the Astros batters routine at the plate? Certainly not impossible but lets see if we can approach a more definitive answer.

So Let's put the Astros OPS at home into a table

Release point Astros OPS at home Opponents OPS at MMP League Average
<4.5 1.179 .667 .690
4.5-5 .576 .894 .713
5-5.5 .642 .784 .735
5.5-6 .727 .711 .736
>6 .780 .738 .749

If we take out the <4.5 due to a small sample size, the Astros numbers progressively get higher as the pitchers release height gets higher. Looking at the table the group that sticks out the most to me is 5.5-6. And here in I think the answer lies. The H in the Ivy.

Notice that the H is a slightly darker color.

And lets look at this video of Pablo Lopez pitching (Lopez's release point is 5.52)

https://preview.redd.it/985neix9xasc1.png?width=1984&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a2d39a278aff839b10d70c5a3b2d1b37e706a29

Lopez arm starts just below the H

https://preview.redd.it/mxjktsobxasc1.png?width=1418&format=png&auto=webp&s=947d9494efa606e2d999592dd3bd07f73aca0f5f

A little hard to see because altuve is bunting but notice how lopez hand is about to go right into the H.

https://preview.redd.it/7pj8wkcexasc1.png?width=1714&format=png&auto=webp&s=5661a396b2bfcf64ca2836f62e20313ef4eea614

The ball is coming towards altuve playing footsie with the bottom point of the star. Changing the color of the backdrop of the ball even if it is just from green to dark green makes it harder on our batters to pick up the ball.

Most other ball parks have a blank batters eye with a solid color.

SD batters eye without the ivy

While the H in the middle of the ivy may look nice, I believe that it is what is causing the problems for our batters. That said it is certainly far from definitive considering that the H has been there long before the struggles began. Then again players have been complaining about MMP since the ivy was installed, most notably Mike trout who has struggled to hit at MMP for a long time. Why are the problems just starting now? I have no idea, it may be some combination of looking at the pitch clock and the change in ivy color that has finally drawn out our struggles.

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