When exactly did the Jets and Dolphins get a “winning culture”?

Jets haven’t seen a playoff in 8 years and has had a top 5 pick now 3 out of the last 4 years. Jets ownership is so horrible QBs have actively avoided the NFL draft to not be drafted there

Miami is a year removed from ACTIVELY TANKING. They haven’t sniffed a playoff game since 2016, and before that was 2009. Their players actively s**t on their starting QB to the media.

So when again did r/NFL nephews decide these two organizations have “winning cultures”